break bread and see if we can find some common ground. i think it will help the party ton have us feuding. >> i'm running for re-election in new jersey. i don't really have time for that at the moment. you know, if i find myself down in washington, i'll certainly look him up. but i don't suspect i'll be there anytime soon. >> okay. well, if republicans don't get their act together pretty soon, can they capture a majority in the senate and win back the white house? joining me now is shawn spicer, communications director for the republican national committee. dana loesch, who is a talk radio host and tea party activist. and matt welsh, who's editor in chief of "reason," and he's also author of the book "the declaration of independence: how libertarianism politics can fix what's wrong with america." great to have all you guys here today. [ applause ] and shawn, i know you're shawn spicer. i know that anyway. but let me start with you. republicans are fighting right now, particularly in the house and senate, over whether or not to defund obama care, even if it means shutting down sign
a overton approach. oppose burning it down. what best tactic helps us to move it down the field to our advantage. >> you will see the house under speaker boehner vote 40 times to defund obama care. the commitment is there and we have one house of one branch. we are doing everything that we can. and i think if we want to do this, you need more pieces and get out in the next election and get a republican senate and put a piece off of the board. the commitment and will is there and we need the ability to make it happen. >> if the republicans implode and they call each other names and you don't have guts and courage. >> that is not going to happen. >> doesn't that affect the ability to win and get the senate back next year? >> not necessarily. >> you don't think it does. >> not perceived progressive will hurt us. that statistically can happen. nate vill versaid it could happen. he is right. the bottom line, three polls released in the past 4 or 5 weeks, majority of the americans on the fox news poll. super unpopular and it is unworkable. they want to so it defeated in any way possible.
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